[Phrase originally coined by John McWhorter in his book Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black America. It is used figuratively as a metaphor and is not meant to be derogatory or to imply that overweight people are automatically undesirable and should be excluded from consideration in relationships.]
There is a segment of the WM who date interracially population that believe that their whiteness is a trump card in a relationship. This is nothing new as these types of men have always existed. The I'm Fat But You're Black Syndrome is closely related to the I'm Fat But You're Asian and Don't Have a Green Card Syndrome.
WM who are afflicted with a form of IFBYBS typically have very little to nothing to offer ANY woman in a relationship (emotionally, physically, socially, or financially) and presume that the virtue of their whiteness alone is enough. These men would typically be classified as undesirable for marriage and relationships yet they believe that because they are white they are ENTITLED to the best of the best and the most desirable of BW and other minority women. These are the type of men who presume themselves to be unable to get a WW of similar caliber so they "settle" for a BW- BW presumably being of a lower social wrung.
You see people usually choose partners based on similarities. Similar levels of attractiveness. Similar levels of education and professional attainment. Similar soci-economic status. If you peruse the sidebar couples on the various IR blogs, this seems to be true. I am also not referring to older or less attractive wealthy men who may choose to be with younger, more attractive women as these men have something to offer these women (i.e. wealth, power, stability and influence). I am strictly referring to men who have nothing to offer a woman in a relationship other than the presumption that being of the majority group is enough.
IMO, these are DBR-WM that BW should avoid at all costs; and any BW who knowingly chooses to be with a man of this mindset- I believe- has some self esteem issues that need to be addressed. A healthy and stable relationship CANNOT be developed with this type of thinking. None of the White or Hispanic men I have had relationships with had this mentality. Granted things may not always be readily apparent, but it can almost always be sniffed out. Moreover, men who believe that they are settling in a relationship (i.e. I can't get the woman I'd prefer, but I can get you) are also more likely to be unfaithful. Not to mention the havoc this would reek on your self esteem and sense of self worth. Imagine living and sleeping with someone who thinks you're less than him?
This is only a warning and not meant to scare. Ultimately your relationship choices are your own but don’t assume that WM are knights in shinning armour and don’t trade DBR-BM for DBR-WM.
16 comments:
Zabeth,
I'm so glad that you bought up this topic because it should be addressed. I have encountered these types of wm in the past and in the present. I would just look at them as if they were nuts because they clearly are.
This shouldn't scare bw, you're just making them aware of the fact that wm like this exsist and that bw should be very careful(not suspicious).
This is a good warning. Any DBR should be avoided.
I'm glad that DBR men of every hue tend to leave me alone.
co-sign.
I know someone who will soon marry a WM who fits this description: Bad credit, lousy income, unattractive (though looks shouldn't matter), poor family life, gosh, he's not even registered to vote. Should I say something to her about this or leave well enough alone? Because you know, she 's in love!!!
I do not know your friend. For me it would depend on the personality of the friend. There is a good chance that she will not listen and reject you as a friend. If that happens and you really care about this person keep the door open because unless he really changes she may say something later on.
When I was in college a gal I knew was getting ready to marry someone that most people found revolting, probably not as slothful as your friend's fiance is but none the less revolting and not very likable. She asked her best friend to be her maid of honor. She refused because of her concerns. The gal married the man in 1979. Today they have benn married for over 29 years and have seven children. As far as I know they are getting along fine. The two friends are still friends today.
You never know how things can end up in situations like this. People do change. I would not tell anyone this but unless there is violence in the relationship if I said anything I would not create drama in the process.
I am so glad you posted this. While I am a firm believer that black women should expand their options, I am under no illusions about white men. Some of them are just as damaged as black men are. Also, the "closet racist syndrome" DOES exist...so black women, beware. This is not to frighten anyone, but just understand that no group is perfect.
Zabeth,
Thank you sooo much for this post. There were a few times I have seen other bw make similar remarks but were rebuffed by other bw who do not want to hear anything but praise for wm. To be clear, I think some wm deserve the attention.
Truth is just that. Truth. There are negative types of men regardless where they come from or what hue.
I definitely think bw need to expand their options. It is simply not wise to not consider wm. But your post is something to think about. It is about the individual. Character means everything.
Pamela: Thanks for your thoughtful comments. I will probably follow your advice.
It was funny to see this! John McWhorter is my brother, and if you happen to look through Losing the Race again you'll see he was referring to something I said long ago about a chubby white kid who was pursuing me in high school. John sent me a link to your post, and I had to smile, in recognition and just to see something I said way back then find its way onto the net. It's a shame that the "syndrome" is so common that it warranted a whole blog post and all these comments, but let's hope your warning will come in handy for some who might never have thought about it...
^^^^^^
WOW! I can't believe this! I am very surprised to hear that Mr. McWhorter found my blog. The world is truly smaller than you think.
There are no boundaries online:)
i too am under no illusions about white men. the "i'm fat but you're black" statement is interesting because for me, among my fellow nigerian friends, if you're going to date a non-black man, he had better be very attractive or you will be the laughingstock of the group. i guess it's our "you're not black so please make up for it" statement.
"i too am under no illusions about white men. the "i'm fat but you're black" statement is interesting because for me, among my fellow nigerian friends, if you're going to date a non-black man, he had better be very attractive or you will be the laughingstock of the group. i guess it's our "you're not black so please make up for it" statement."
That's just as damaging as the "I'm Fat But You're Black" Mindset. That's the same way of thinking as those damaged white men. Just because you're female doesn't make it any better.
Do you hold African or African-American men to the same standard?
i wasn't necessarily discussing my own views. i was replaying my nigerian friends' group-think response when i brought up my interest in men outside of the nigerian ethnicity.
i hold all men up to a standard- my own.
This post is timely indeed. My best friend has been emailing a guy from an interracial dating site for a little over a year without meeting. They were supposed to meet several times and he always cancelled. He is uneducated, in recovery and has a borderline personality. The only conversation he had to offer was always sexual. We finally convinced her that he was not worthy and she stopped all contact. I think the key was we were honest with her and still supportive. If a woman is not emotionally ready, she will attract dbrms no matter what there race. Thank you for posting this topic.
anon, glad your friend saw the light. It should not take a year to vet a man. I'm really glad.
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